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A (somewhat) DIY Expungement

Hey everyone, Tom here - and it's me actually writing the article for once! I’ve been meaning to write this for a while, but haven’t gotten around to it, my apologies. The truth of the matter is that once you do your classes, pay your fines, and live out your probation, your DUI goes away. It’s not hanging over your head, it’s not weighing on your shoulders, it’s not on the top of your mind all the time. For many of you going through it right now I know it doesn’t seem that way, but I promise you, it doesn’t.

Before we get into things - let me just be clear and reference the Disclaimer on the site and reiterate - I am not a lawyer, I have no legal training, and none of this is legal advice. This is a story of how I did things… I didn't know what I was doing and I had a little bit of guidance. Still, I think it's important to tell the story of how I mostly did my own expungement to showcase how it can be done. A previous post "Guest Post: How Often are DUI cases expunged in California" helped me to think I could take on the task myself, and gave me reassurance that expungement could be granted.

Additionally, every county is going to be different - this will apply to Los Angeles county, however there should be information on your county's website about which forms are needed.


“Expungement”



It had been over 3 years since my DUI and I wanted to move on with my life. I had learned a lot from the process, I had grown, I was in a different position in my life. But still, I was worried about it haunting me - I needed to move soon, and I was worried that my conviction would make any prospective landlord say no to me. I was worried that when I was applying to new jobs that I would have to disclose it and they would turn me down for the job. It’s a cruel way to live - I had “done the time”, I paid off every penny I owed, I had done everything they asked me to, not made a single mistake since, and still, I was under threat of being punished further, that my mistakes would hang over me for the rest of my life.

I wanted to move on.

Fortunately CA offers a chance for us to move past our mistakes. They don’t offer a “true” expungement (which would be clearing out the whole thing top to bottom) but they offer one that’s close enough to where it doesn’t matter - Your plea of “Guilty” or “No Contest” or finding of guilt is withdrawn, a please of “Not Guilty” is entered, and your case is dismissed and can no longer be used on background checks. It’s still in the system that you were arrested, but now any time you are asked about a conviction you can fill out “no” and be correct. It doesn’t apply to filing state certifications, the FBI file on you, Watson Murder Laws, you’re still prior-able for any further DUI you receive, it doesn’t apply to the DMV side of things, but… it’s something. In most cases it will be enough to make it so that your DUI doesn’t further hinder your life.

To be eligible you must have completed probation, and paid any fines and fees you owe to the state.

When first discussing representation with my attorneys back when this all started, a few tried to tempt me into hiring them by offering me a “discount” on a later expungement, or a motion to reduce probation. Even with this discount both were very expensive and I wasn’t in a great place financially. I had to find other options. Could I possibly do this myself? I started researching and started gathering the resources to get the process started.

Forms, lots of forms.



There’s a surprising amount of legal resources online provided by the government - The state has a guide where you can look up your conviction and see your eligibility, as well as guide you on how to expunge your record. More importantly they also host the two forms that are needed - CR-180 - the petition for dismissal, and CR-181 - the judge’s order to dismiss. The first one I filled out my court information at the top, then indicated which type of infraction I was convicted under and that I had done my probation, if it was terminated early I would've checked the box for that - but mine wasn't so I didn't, and that I should be “granted relief in the interest of justice”. It’s a lofty term, it feels like you’re asking them to clear up your case because you intend to become some sort of supercop, but really you’re asking them to be fair to you - you did everything you had to, you’re not dealing with another case, let me free. The companion document, CR-181, is basically the same court information and then setting everything up for a judge to check a box based on their decision and sign it. It’s basically making things easier on them, which is always a good thing.
Then comes the declaration - I could've written it in the space on CR-180, but there's not a lot of room to create a compelling argument. I decided to use a little bit more space, and I could have used either form MC-031 or deleted the first page of this pleading paper and written it according to legal practices - every line meeting up with a number on the side, numbering paragraphs, titling the document (on line 1), numbering the pages at the bottom above the footer (below line 28, and centered on the page) and filling in the information of what the document is at the bottom (Declaration in Support of Petition Under P.C. 1203.4, 1203.4a and/or P.C. 17(b)(3))

With the declaration I did what I’ve done this whole time - express remorse, regret, take responsibility for what I’ve done, and express how much better I've become, and how much I want to continue to be better. I wrote from the heart, writing about how awful this has been and how I never want to do it again. I let them know my pain, and how I absolutely never want to do this again. I also included how getting this expungement would help me achieve my goals in life and be a better person. It’s finally a chance for you to express all the things you’ve felt, all the please to God that you’ve made, with a chance that somebody will hear them, and help you. It feels good.

A Little Help



This is all a very technical process - and I didn’t know any of it. There’s a certain amount that you can do and learn on your own, but as with all of this process, it helps to get guidance from the professionals. There’s organizations dedicated to helping people get out from under the shadow of their conviction - namely Continuing Justice however, I managed to find a lawyer on social media who was willing to give me a little guidance, and it helped a lot. I never would’ve known all the rules about a pleading document without them. If you get confused there’s plenty of non-profit resources that you can look into.

Filing



This is where things get a little bit tricky and technical. It’s one of those “this is a reason why lawyers and legal clerks have jobs” sort of thing. Doing this by mail required me to have a Proof of Service form with the documents - form POS-030 - with this I couldn't turn the documents in by dropping them off, it must be via mail. There’s an additional hitch to this - I couldn't serve the documents since I am involved in the case. I had to get somebody else involved - it could've been anybody who isn’t involved in the case - a spouse, parent, child, friend, priest, grocer, neighbor, stranger you met in the street, anybody who isn’t me. I went with a friend who had gone through a similar situation that I was comfortable talking about it, but I did consider just making a Craigslist post and seeing if somebody would do it for $5.

My information was at the top of the POS (the branch name will be the court where my case was), and I filled in what documents will be sent and the name and address of whoever is being served - which was going to be either be the DA’s office, the City Attorney office, or whichever other office prosecuted me (I didn't know), and my friend helping me filled in their name, address, date, and their signature.

Then I made two packets:

The first is for the court - I sent in (in this order) a CR-180, Declaration, CR-181, Proof of service, all paper clipped together. You're not supposed to staple them, I'm told they hate that. I also included a second CR-180, and declaration paper clipped together. I put the two paper clipped packets in an envelope and addressed it to the clerk’s office of the court that my case was in.

The second packet is for the prosecution - you have to let them know that you’re doing this, too. It was either the District Attorney or the City Attorney, I tried the DA first. Their packet was a CR-180, Declaration, and Proof of Service all paper clipped together. They only need one copy, so that was all I put in an envelope addressed to them.

Then I met with my friend who was serving (mailing) these papers, had them fill out their name, address, date, and signature on both Proofs of Service, and then signed and dated my CR-180 and my declaration. Sealed the envelopes, stamped them, and gave them to my friend to send off.

Trial and Error



Like everything, this isn’t the easiest process. There’s some unknowns. I initially sent mine to the District Attorney’s office and it came back with a letter saying the wrong party was served. I resubmitted the packet (still via my friend, but now with a new POS) to the City Attorney, and this time it took. Sometimes this is going to happen and even the lawyer who was advising me wasn’t able to tell who to submit to until it came back rejected. Don’t worry. It’s a common thing and it came back with a letter explaining why it was rejected. One of the very few times that the government was helpful during this whole ordeal.

Additionally, it was good to know that I didn't only have one chance to apply for an expungement. While expungement is somewhat common in DUI cases, things happen and they can be rejected. If you get rejected they should tell you why, and you can always take another crack at it, you just have to wait six months.

Results



After a few times of submitting, waiting, getting my forms back, having them bounce back and figure it all out I got a letter saying that everything was submitted and would be reviewed. A month later I got my judgement: The court granted my request and dismissed my case.

It was a long time coming but it was finally over - all the pain, all the money, all the hassle… I’d finally overcome it. It was an extremely joyous moment, one of the very few in this process.

It was all behind me. Officially.

From submitting the final accepted packet to getting my judgement was just about two months. Two months is all it took to be free.

Travel



The number one question that comes with an expungement - can you go to Canada? Because Canada has different DUI laws that make even the most minor DUI a felony, they’ve historically been strict on allowing DUI offenders into their country. However, now that I’m no longer convicted of a DUI, would I be ok to go?

I haven’t traveled myself, but every indication seems to be yes. There’s several anecdotal examples of people getting in, and this website seems to suggest the same. They say it’s a good idea to have a copy of your dismissal paperwork with you, which isn’t a bad idea. Ultimately, still, it’s up to the border officer you encounter, but seems like most recognize a CA expungement. Canada focuses on convictions… with this expungement… you weren’t convicted. Just wait a little bit for the database to get updated.

Automatic Expungement



AB 1076 was passed a little while back and has made a world of difference to a lot of people - it allows minor convictions to become automatically expunged after a certain amount of time. The reasoning makes a lot of sense - a lot of people don’t know they’re eligible for the expungement, plus the burden of the costs and research involved is unfair. Since this became law millions have already had their past convictions of shoplifting or other minor, non violent crimes be cleared from their record, allowing them to move on with their lives.

Will it work in your case? I’m not so sure.

First off, the law only applies to people who have been arrested after Jan 1st, 2021 - which means that most, if not all, people who received DUIs since then would still be on probation and not eligible for the automatic expungement yet.

The other problem is I’m not completely sure if DUIs are covered under the law. There’s part that’s carved out to call to the vehicle code, but I don’t quite understand it. Like I’ve always said, I’m not a lawyer. Researching this hasn’t lead me to any sort of definitive this will or this win’t expunge a DUI.

Afterwards



I often explain to people, like I did at the beginning of this post, that once you get to a certain point you don't think about your DUI, and it's almost as if it never happened… This is what I mean. Since the day I received the judgement, I've been free. I've certainly learned my lesson to never want to go through this whole ordeal again, but now I have a feeling that I've "made up" for what I did.

It can happen to you, too.

New Year, New Laws - 2021

(Hey there, everyone - I first sent this post out via my newsletter - feel free to sign up for more updates like this. - Tom)

Hello, Happy New Year! Hope this one is treating you well.

2020 was a rough one for sure. What's nice about it is, when things hit the bottom, the only place they can go is up. That was my experience getting a DUI, and that's the attitude I'm taking with me into 2021. We'll see how long it lasts.

Changing Laws


The first day of January usually involves a lot of changing laws, more often than not bringing the hammer down on DUI offenders harder, but that wasn't the case this year. As legislatures were unable to meet or otherwise occupied by the pandemic, DUI offenders weren't in the crosshairs for once. A nice feeling.

Instead the theme of this year's new laws: Justice Reform.

After the George Floyd incident and protests the tide shifted in this country, whether you agree with those sentiments towards police or not, and legislators acted in response (it was an election year, after all).

(Again standard legal disclaimer here: I'm not a lawyer, and I'm definitely not your lawyer, any analysis of this is me just trying to piece things together from the news/bills and I don't know the full ins-and-outs of how all this goes down. I'm giving you my best idea, however)

Arizona


Legalized recreational marijuana - can still get a DUI-Drugs.

California


AB 3234 - Allows misdemeanor DUIs to become eligible for diversion. Once diversion is completed, the crime doesn't stick to your record.

I haven't gotten into the nuts-and-bolts of this one (these types of programs aren't laid out beforehand), but I'm guessing it's a lot like other programs - fines, probation, meetings - a lot of what you already do when convicted - and they seal your record automatically once it's done. No longer does a non-expunged DUI hang over your head for ten years. I'm guessing it'll still be prior-able since they love to be able to still stick it to you when they have a chance, and it'll stay on your DMV record so you're not getting a break on insurance.

That said - it's a great step forward. A DUI doesn't need to ruin somebody's life, it needs to teach them a lesson. Most of us have learned ours from the feeling of seeing police lights in the rearview.

The big caveat of this: It won't apply to a DUI you already have. If you've been convicted you'll still have to apply for an expungement the old fashioned way.

AB 1076 - Under this law, the state will automatically clear records for arrests that did not result in conviction after the statute of limitations has passed, and those around probation and jail once the sentence is completed.

This goes hand-in-hand nicely with the other law - if you don't receive diversion (it's up to the judge) and get convicted as you would have prior, your records will be sealed as if you got an expungement. This saves you the time and money of the process (which was difficult for me, and I plan to write about soon).

It's also nice to see a clearing of the arrest that doesn't lead to convictions - a lot of people think that if they get off then everything is fine, but an arrest still shows up on your record. That will no longer be the case.

However, like before, this only applies to arrests/and convictions after Jan 1, 2021.

Prop 17 - If your previous DUI was a felony, you may be eligible to regain your right to vote (it's insane that we take away voting rights like this in the first place).

Montana


Legalized recreational marijuana - can still get a DUI-Drugs.

New Hampshire


Commercial truck drivers - or anyone driving a vehicle weighting 10,001 lbs or more, will automatically have their DWI upgraded to an Aggravated DWI, which carries a larger fine (up to $750 from $500, but don't think that's what you'll be paying) and a mandatory minimum of 17 days in jail (12 days will be suspended if the driver submits to a substance use disorder evaluation). Additionally, those commercial drivers who refuse to submit to a breathalyzer will have their commercial license suspended immediately instead of having that little bit of wiggle time before it was suspended.

Harsh. Commercial drivers used to be subject to the same laws as ordinary drivers, but no longer.

New Jersey


Legalized recreational marijuana - can still get a DUI-Drugs.

Pennsylvania


A "Move Over" law was enacted - if an emergency vehicle is at the side of the road, you need to move over a lane away from them or slow down to 20 MPH under the speed limit. Give them some space or police will have a reasonable cause to pull you over.

South Dakota


Legalized recreational marijuana - can still get a DUI-Drugs.

Virginia


As of 1/1/21 - You can't drive while holding a cell phone. Only related to DUIs because it gives a reasonable cause to pull somebody over.

Traveling


Tangentially related to DUI issues is the Real ID card - it was supposed to be required to fly this previous years, but in interest of keeping DMVs less crowded and/or closed, they delayed it until October. You'll need a Real ID compliant license to step on an airplane. So, if your license was suspended you'll either need to use a Passport, or get a Real ID state ID card to get on board. If you are getting a new license after suspension, be sure to get a Real ID compliant license. If you've just gotten one, then you either need a passport or have to go through the renewal process/fee again.


These are all the ones related/semi-related to drinking and driving that I could find. Has your state issued one I missed? Let me know!

Tom.

Guest Post: Ways to Challenge Breathalyzer Test

I received an email via my contact page from John Adam, who wanted to wanted to give some perspective on how to challenge the Breathalyzer test. Interesting stuff - Tom

The use of breath to determine the blood alcohol level of a person is the most popular scientific method in DUI cases. There are many cases, when the wrong Breathalyzer tests cause the person, under suspicion of driving while drinking, face DUI charges. Breathalyzer results are inaccurate because of certain problems with calibrations or if there is an untrained police officer using the device.

The prosecuting party has to prove in the court that the defendant's BAC was at or above the legal limit. In a few states, it is .10% while in others it is .08%. When the person is wrongfully charged on the basis of defective Breathalyzer tests, the defendant needs a DUI attorney to challenge the Breathalyzer test in court.

The Burden of Proof in Challenging the Results:


Under the wrongful DUI charges, the defendant must prove that these charges are invalid for the conviction. This is possible when the attorney convinces the court that there is a lack of strength in evidence or it is insufficient to convict the accused. The defense team may focus on the witness statement and evidence without having the burden of proof. When the defense refutes the proof and demonstrates that the prosecution has not strengthened in the case, this may help in dismissing the
charges.

Use of Breathalyzer:


There are many cases when the Breathalyzer is not used properly. The police officer uses the device inaccurately given improper maintenance, training or calibration, which gives the inaccurate results. When the prosecuting party has Breathalyzer results as the only evidence, by only refuting this proof it becomes easy as well as effective to defend the person from the conviction. However, in this case, the defense team needs the help of an expert in these devices or understands well the proper calibration to give accurate results.

Training of the Police Officer:


In many cases, the police officer who pulls over the driver on suspicion of being under the influence of drug or alcohol, may not be properly trained to conduct a Breathalyzer test or use the device. The device cannot provide the results if the officer does not use it accurately. There are certain rules for this such as observing the driver for twenty minutes to determine whether the results are accurate or not. Moreover, the office is supposed to check the intestinal health of the accused or alcohol in the mouth.

Calibration:


Breathalyzers have settings as well as calibrations that need regular maintenance and understanding. In case the officer in charge is unaware of how to set the device and keeps it maintained, the device can produce the wrong results.

Few devices need to be repaired and parts replaced. In case of lack of knowledge about taking care of the device, there will be inaccurate results leading to wrong DUI charges. Not only one, but all or most of the arrest will be affected.

Challenging the Results Varies According to the Case:


In addition to the above-mentioned ways, there are other ways to challenge the Breathalyzer tests. For instance, the accused may have a special condition that could lead to the retention of the alcohol in his or her system that brings wrong results. This is another effective to challenge the results and refute the charges completely.

Other factors involved, the environmental temperature and pressure in the atmosphere, and the chemical composition of the person taking the test. This refers to the emotional stress and physical activity, hyperventilating, heavy breathing due to anxiousness.

Given these several factors, the results are inaccurately measured. This is the reason few of the DUI cases involve expert witness who gives the testimony about the inaccuracy of the device with incorrect results. The DUI attorney must present the valid argument based upon these facts and evidence.

Final Word:


The defendant needs the support of the lawyer to challenge the Breathalyzer tests, as the attorney is skilled in dealing with such cases and will guide according to the given circumstances.

The Various Outcomes of a DUI Arrest

Like the rest of the process - what can happen to you after your arrest isn’t the clearest. It depends on a lot of things, your BAC, if there was an accident, prior DUI arrests, etc. I’ll try to outline as many as I can, but there’s always something more that can happen… obviously if the cop finds drugs, illegal weapons, or an outstanding warrant, your case will be much more complicated.

Felony DUI


Most likely you’re not in this territory. The vast majority of DUI cases are misdemeanors, but still felony DUIs do happen. A DUI becomes a felony when you commit a traffic violation (wrong way down a one way road, run a stop light, etc.) and injure somebody because of this violation. You’ll know pretty quickly if the state is pursuing a felony charge against you - most likely you’ll have to bond yourself out of jail, and will already be dealing with the guilt of injuring somebody else. A Felony DUI usually requires 180 days in jail, a $3,000-$5,000 fine, a 4-10 year suspension of your license, a possible strike against the three-strikes law, and attendance in an 18-month, or 30-month DUI program. Yikes. It’s just not worth it. On top of that, you will will have to pay restitution to the injured parties, which will not be cheap.

Enhanced Penalty DUI/Aggravated DUI


This is for when you are arrested for DUI and are in an accident, under 21, speeding 20 miles over, or are especially intoxicated. The threshold for “especially intoxicated” is .15, but there’s a lot of judgement involved. I was at a .15, barely, and for whatever reason they did not pursue these charges against me. A .20 BAC is where they must throw these penalties at you, anything in between .15-.20 is up to the whims of those against you. Even if you were at a .20 it’s not the end of the world. It’s still a misdemeanor. Occasionally you can get rid of the additional penalties if you plead out, depending on how close to the line you were. The additional charges against you will depend on how it was aggravated - but most likely, you’re looking at having to attend a 9-month DUI program instead of the 3-month, and have to attend some AA meetings. A hassle, for sure, unfortunate, for sure, but manageable.

DUI


The vanilla charge. The three letters that have been staring you in the face every day. This is most likely the charge you will be facing. It comes with a $390-$1000 fine (which they take on “court fees” on top of), a 5-month license suspension (which you can turn into a 30-day suspension and 5-month restricted license with an IID), a 3-month DUI program, and 3 years summary probation (more on this later, but basically you just have to be a good boy. You don’t have a probation officer, you don’t have to check in).

Wet Reckless


The Wet Reckless charge is a little bit like a mirage. Lawyers will use it as an incentive to hire them, offering you the possibility of getting it. There’s very little chance of you pleading your case down to a wet reckless. Usually it’s a compromise for when the police know their instruments were malfunctioning or otherwise can’t convict you, but still want to nail you with something. When I first read about the Wet Reckless, I started hoping and praying that I could negotiate it down to that. I didn’t stand a chance. A Wet Reckless is a DUI-light. It says you had some level of intoxication, but weren’t legally drunk. It’s not something you can be arrested for, it can only come from a plea bargain.

The Wet Reckless is a little bit complicated - it has lesser fines, no mandatory suspension from the court, you only serve a 6-week DUI program, but it still has drawbacks - the most major one is that it’s priorable - meaning if you get a DUI later on, that one will count as your second DUI. Also, while the court may not suspend your license, the DMV still can, and most certainly will, issue their own suspension. Like I said earlier, there’s not a lot of wiggle room with the DMV. So while you won’t officially be serving a DUI - you’ll be serving the worst part of the sentence - the suspension and subsequent interlock. It also counts as a DUI for purposes of traveling to Canada.

That said, you’ll have beat the system somewhat. And you have to be proud of that. But still, you most likely will not be eligible for a Wet Reckless.

Dismissal


The least likely outcome. Sometimes, for whatever reason, the DA decides not to pursue some cases. They may know it was an illegal stop or the equipment wasn’t working properly, I don’t know, and if you get yours dismissed, you won’t know either. Be careful - one person in my DUI class had the charges not filed initially, then on the last day the could have been filed they were. Really messed him up, he thought he’d gotten off. This is also the outcome of taking the case to court and somehow winning. It sounds like a dream - fighting the system and winning. Just know that there’s a few caveats to it - 1.) you’ll have to pay a lot of lawyer fees 2.) it’s a gamble, and if you lose, you may wish you’d taken the plea bargain 3.) The DMV case is separate. So while you may win your big day in court, or have no charges filed against you, the DMV can already have decided that you are guilty and your license suspended. It just isn’t fair.

I remember being presented these options from my lawyer, it looked kind of a menu. I wanted to just go “Oh, I’ll have the Wet Reckless” please. It’s not up to you anymore, unless you or your lawyer have incredible negotiation skills. People have done it, but those are outliers. You may be one, but most likely you’re not. Still, it’s good to know all the options that exist.